Are you relying on referrals but still stressing about where your next job is coming from?
Have you spent money on marketing but never seen real results?
Does your business feel invisible online when people search for your services?
Highlights of Episode
In this episode, I’m sharing lead-generation strategies and marketing systems that helped us generate 30% of our leads organically from Google without running ads, so you can build consistent, predictable work in your contracting business.
If you’ve ever felt frustrated with marketing that doesn’t work, this episode breaks down simple, foundational steps you can start using right away to improve your online presence, workflow, and lead generation.
This episode is for contractors who want better leads, stronger branding, and long-term business growth without depending on paid ads.
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Key Takeaways from This Episode
Here are the 8 organic marketing strategies discussed:
- Set up and optimize your Google Business Profile
- Focus on getting consistent Google reviews
- Post photos and updates regularly
- Use your CRM to collect job site content
- Use social media for branding (not just leads)
- Write weekly blogs based on real search questions
- Answer the questions your customers are already asking
- Track your lead sources and double down on what works
Connecting with You and Next Steps
About the Host:
Shaytoya is the CMO at K&B Communications, a commercial low-voltage contractor serving Nevada and Arizona. With over 10 years of experience working behind the scenes in construction focused on marketing, hiring, and operations, she has helped build systems that support consistent growth, stronger teams, and predictable lead generation.
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Transcript
In this episode, we talk about something that's made a huge difference in our business.
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:Right now, we are receiving about 30 % of our leads that are coming organically from
Google.
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:And guess what?
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:We are not running any type of ads.
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:Truth is, this did not happen overnight, but it did come from focusing on building a real
foundation for our online presence.
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:Today, I'm going to share with you a few things
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:that we've been doing that has helped us build that.
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:Hey, I'm Che Toya.
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:I've spent more than 10 years in construction, working behind the scenes in marketing,
hiring, and I've seen how overwhelming it can be to grow a business.
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:That's how we've learned to build a sustainable business using clear systems, strong
communication, and intentional recruiting.
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:If you're ready for better hiring, smarter marketing, and a business that doesn't fall
apart when you step away,
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:Welcome to building better contractor businesses.
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:Before we jump into today's episode, I want to invite you to join our Building the Better
Contractor Business Facebook group.
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:This is a space where contractors can come, connect, ask questions, and share what's
working or not working in their business.
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:This is a group where we talk about things such as building better systems, creating more
consistent work, and just growing a stronger contractor business.
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:If that sounds like something that you're currently looking for, be sure to check out the
show notes.
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:The link will be below.
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:So when it comes to marketing and SEO, I want to be completely honest with you.
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:For years, we tried different marketing companies.
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:We've hired so many people that said that they could build our business to the next level.
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:We paid people to build websites.
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:We paid for marketing services.
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:And honestly,
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:We never really saw the results we expected.
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:One situation really stuck with me was that we were added to a subscription for someone to
build us a website.
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:And as soon as we stopped paying the subscription and also the services that we paid for
it for them to build the website, we lost everything that they had built.
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:We lost our website.
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:We were devastated.
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:I was very upset and the website was gone and we realized we had no control over that
website and I was pissed.
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:And that was a huge big wake up call for me.
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:Understanding that we did not have no control over this website.
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:Understanding that if I wanted to grow our business we needed to really understand what
was happening and understand marketing.
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:So one of the things that I started doing was Googling our company, as well as other low
voltage companies that were also here in the Valley.
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:And I paid, really paid attention to what came up, especially the stuff that I seen for
our organization.
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:If I seen anything that was outdated, if something was inaccurate, or if something just
didn't represent our business the right way, I focused on updating it, correcting it, or
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:improving it.
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:Because when someone searches your company,
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:that it's their first impression of your business.
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:And that's something a lot of contractors never take a look at.
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:Around the same time, I started learning more about SEO and online presence.
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:Also, when COVID happened, I had all the time in the world.
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:I just had a baby and I thought I might as well learn marketing.
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:And I also want to be clear about something.
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:I am not an SEO expert.
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:Everything I've learned was because I wanted to grow our business and to understand how
people were finding us.
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:I wanted to understand why people buy to learn the psychology of marketing.
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:really dove deep in learning marketing and learning why people buy.
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:And this was all around from COVID and I thought it was very important that I spent that
time wisely and that's what I did.
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:And what I started to realize is that building organic leads really comes down to
consistency.
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:It does not happen overnight, unfortunately, but over time, we started noticing something.
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:More people were finding us online.
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:More people were reaching out organically.
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:And today, about 30 % of our leads come in organically from Google.
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:And we are still building that foundation today.
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:And this really, really excites me that we've built a business oh through organic
marketing and 30 % of our business comes from online presence.
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:So I want to share a few things that we've been doing that has helped us and how we
started building that foundation.
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:So I think the things that I'm going to share with you is the basics.
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:very, very important that these are the things that you guys have in place, just simple
things that has helped for us.
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:And I am, as I said, I am no SEO expert, just things that I have found that has helped us
grow our business online.
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:I have spent thousands of hours watching YouTube videos, as well as paying for courses.
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:I have also taken courses at CSN, as well as courses that I've
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:purchased when it came to marketing, just to learn, understand why people buy, and then
also just to have an idea of how to grow our business organically online.
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:So number one is to just make sure you have a Google business profile.
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:And so in the past, your Google business profile used to be called Google My Business.
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:That is no longer what it's called.
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:If you search on Google,
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:for you to create a Google business profile, you will see an option to do so.
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:And one of the things that I will say is PO boxes aren't allowed.
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:Another thing is that if you do not have an address, just make it where it's hidden.
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:I know a lot of times when we're speaking to other SEO experts, they're always like, you
gotta have an address.
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:But now the thing that Google has made it is where if you do not have an actual location,
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:and you're trying to use a PO box or use whatever, they're now asking you to do a video to
show your location.
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:And to me, that's been a problem.
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:If you have like a home address or you have somewhere where you don't want people to know.
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:So if you're not able to add an address, don't worry.
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:I just, know, the most important thing for you to right now to understand is for you to
build that foundation, you have to make sure you have a Google business profile.
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:Very first.
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:important thing.
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:And then also when it comes to making sure you have a Google business profile that it's
set up, what's very nice about having a Google page, you can place it to if you if you're
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:a service provider, and you are focused in like I live in Las Vegas.
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:So I can place it in all the major locations here in Nevada.
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:Nevada can actually be very big.
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:So maybe I don't do every area.
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:and I don't have to with Google, you can set it exactly how far you wanna go.
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:So I do think that's very important is for you to set the location of where you're at,
which will help you with your local, for people to find you locally, organically.
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:Also, I do talk to a lot of business owners and contractors, and I'm also always surprised
that so many contractors or business owners, I have so many friends, I've been in this
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:business world for about 12 years now.
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:And so many people that I know don't have the first step of building an organic business
online and that's having a Google business profile.
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:Of course, there's hundreds of other things.
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:But to me, the most important thing is to at least set yourself up on Google.
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:Very important.
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:You know, they say Google is the number one page for people for searching.
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:I know AI and all those different sites are, know, possibly changing that.
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:Google is one of the number one locations that people are actually doing searches.
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:So for that reason, be sure to have your business set up on Google.
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:When I first set it up, I watched a YouTube video.
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:So, and also chat GBT or whatever software you're using will walk you through it as well.
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:Nowadays, that's what I'm doing if I have a question on how to do something.
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:And when if you're not on Google, that's going to be a huge opportunity that's missed.
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:And as I said, Google is still the number one search engine that might change in the
future.
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:But for now, that is number one.
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:And when it does come to these other platforms, and when it comes to AI, know, chat GBT
has been a huge one.
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:Jim and I, all these different softwares, they're pulling their information from online.
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:So for that reason, you know, start off with having a Google page is actually going to
help you be found on AI, chat GBT, or whatever software you're currently using.
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:So if your company is not there, be sure to get there.
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:So if not, it's going to be a lot harder for people to find you.
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:So this is something that our team has been very focused on getting Google reviews.
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:We are still building that foundation of Google reviews.
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:I believe we currently have 168 Google reviews.
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:So still not a whole lot, but we've received that amount of Google reviews just because
we've been focused throughout the years just asking customers.
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:So I think that it's something that we've been consistently asking for.
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:Our team has had to understand the importance of it.
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:We've made it part of our culture.
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:We've done contests with our teams to encourage them to ask for reviews.
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:I think this is very important.
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:And then also one of our last contests that we did was whoever got the most Google
reviews, we would take them to dinner with Kevin and I.
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:And it wasn't just a regular dinner.
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:We took them to the top of the world.
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:The top of the world is here in Las Vegas.
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:And it's an amazing location.
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:It's at the stratosphere, the strat, whatever you want to call it nowadays.
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:But the strat has a restaurant called the top of the world.
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:And it goes into kind of a view of a circle.
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:and you're going around and around and around and you get to see the whole entire view of
Las Vegas.
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:So if you have not been there, I do recommend for you to go out and check it out.
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:It's a really nice restaurant.
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:And so the person who won that, it was him and his wife, was one of our technicians at the
time.
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:He is now a estimator, so he's grown within the company.
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:But him and his wife, we know we took them up there.
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:But the most important thing that we've really talked about was the importance of the
reviews being real.
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:Google doesn't want you to get fake reviews.
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:I would also say they don't have to be your actual client who signed the job.
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:If there's someone who comments, you're doing an amazing job, ask them for a Google
review.
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:They're real.
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:There are people who actually see you doing the work.
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:So getting Google reviews to us has been something that we've been growing on in making
sure that it's been consistent.
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:We talk about it at our weekly meetings.
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:I'm talking about Google reviews every week.
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:So I do think that is something that needs to be completed and it needs to be completed on
a consistent basis.
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:Like you can't just one week, I'm gonna get 10 Google reviews, but after that, I'm gonna
get none.
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:So it has to be something done over time, not just, we're gonna get 20 Google reviews and
then tomorrow we won't get none.
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:Number three is posting photos consistently.
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:So with Google's business page, you're able to actually post post and you're also able to
post photos.
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:Like your photos, they can only be images, no text, and you just post a photo.
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:And then your posts can be like company updates that's going around on the company.
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:And so that as well, of course, you have to be consistently doing it because Google wants
to see that you're consistent, not just, I'm going to post one time and never post again.
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forgetting about it.
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:being more on the marketing side of things now and the technicians being more on the
getting the job done kind of on that side.
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:You know, it's hard to ask the guys for pictures and be like, hey, take pictures when
they're just so focused on getting their work and they're enjoying, they're doing the
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:things that they possibly like, but I could never ever get pictures.
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:We started uploading photos into our CRM system on a daily basis.
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:So when they do their daily closeouts, they're also uploading photos.
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:And these photos, our project manager is actually going to review them.
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:And the photos that look good are the ones that she believes that she said she should send
to me.
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:Those are the ones that she's gonna actually send to the marketing team.
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:That way we can actually post them and do the things that we do with marketing.
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:So we will use those pictures for Google as well as posting as well.
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:Also very important that Google, the photos do not have to just be the job sites.
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:A lot of people think the only photos that can be completed is job site photos, but that
is not at all true.
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:I post photos from networking events that we've attended, community events that we've
attended, awards that we've received, company events.
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:recently for Christmas time, me and Kevin went to Target and just filled the carts with
toys for one of the general contractors that we work with.
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:The general contractor that we work with, Alam Construction actually, they were getting
toys for donations for Christmas, giving them to kids that were in need.
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:And so this was a great way for us to get involved with one of the general contractors
that we work with.
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:But at the same time, for us to use that, yes, we're doing something for good, but also
marketing, branding.
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:So, you know, we took a few photos of us filling the cards and then we posted them on
social media.
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:No, we weren't doing them for that marketing and that stuff, but we were actually doing it
for branding, or for not branding, I'm sorry, donating.
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:But why not share those times, since it's a great time of us doing something great for our
customer, our client.
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:as well as something great for the kids as well.
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:And so it's just being, you know, having fun and also something positive to share.
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:I've also posted photos from our Christmas party, you know, every Christmas time, holiday
party.
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:We have a holiday party with the team, teams comes out last year.
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:We went to F1 arcade, we had a good time, but that was a great time to take photos of the
team, photos of them riding the rides, we had eight food, we just had a really good time.
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:You know, other events that we attend that we could take pictures as well.
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:A couple of weeks ago, I received an award for being a sponsor at the Kids Block event
through the Women in Construction event.
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:They didn't say my name, but KNB Communications was being awarded an award for being a
sponsor.
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:I had people, had invited someone to come with me to accept that award.
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:And so these photos show people who are as in our company, other photos you could take as
you behind the scenes.
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:I've taken photos at our quarterly meetings that I've spoken about, at our yearly meetings
that I've spoken about.
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:These just show exactly who our team is and it just helps our clients, possibly potential
employees figure, decide exactly, is this a company that I wanna work with?
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:I also of course post the photos that I receive from the technicians on Facebook,
Instagram, LinkedIn, TikTok, but I mainly use social media for branding because the
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:So, and that's also why I believe we should not be running ads on Facebook because
unfortunately people aren't going to Facebook.
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:They're going to Facebook to, you know, to relax.
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:They're not going to Facebook to look for a technician or for a, you know, low voltage
contractor.
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:So for that reason, I use Facebook and Instagram more for when someone looks up our
company, we're active.
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:We got photos that shows them exactly who we are.
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:To me, this is the most, most important that when someone looks us up, everywhere online
is similar.
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:It shows we are active, we are present, we're also involved in our community.
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:I think that's something that I've learned.
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:In the past, I ran ads on Facebook and LinkedIn, and actually I've never ran ads on
LinkedIn.
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:I know we hired a marketing company about last year and they were running ads on Facebook
and I was like, why?
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:But to me, Facebook, Instagram, like these are great locations for branding to share with
companies of who we are.
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:You know, maybe that will change at this moment.
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:So a couple years ago, I read the book, They Ask You Answer, which was a really, really
good book.
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:If you've not read the book, you should.
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:The author of the book owned a pool company.
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:He was selling like pools and you know, the what he was doing, and it's been a while since
I've read the book, so I may get it confused, but he was online.
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:He was literally giving the answers that everyone else of the pool companies were scared
to share, such as pricing, such as the things that no one wants to talk about.
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:but because those are the questions that people are already answering or asking online, it
made it very helpful that he was answering those questions.
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:And so because he was answering the questions that they were asking, of course his blog or
his content was coming up.
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:And of course I do feel like things may be a little bit harder now, but it's still
possible.
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competitors, what are they doing?
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:Answer the public.
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:If I put a keyword out there, it's going to show me questions that people are actually
searching online.
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:They have this free option, but when you're in the free option, I believe you can only ask
maybe one or two, maybe more keywords.
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:I do pay for Ubersuggest as well as Answer the Public, but I, know, because I do use this
once a week, that it just made sense for us to use it.
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:When you search something on Google, there is a section that shows people also search for.
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:But that just, know, as I said, just shows you exactly what people want to know and the
things that people are wanting to know, why not answer it?
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:I honestly already shared that with you guys, but there is a book as I mentioned that's
called, They Ask You Answer, and the idea is very simple.
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:All you're really doing is providing content that answers those questions that people are
searching online, and that's how they find you.
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:Number eight is to pay attention to the leads that are coming in.
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:One of the things that I've been doing is talking to ourselves, team, talking to our
estimator.
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:asking them about the leads coming in during our leadership calls, I'm finding out.
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:I'm finding out from our serum system or dashboard, it tells me exactly where the leads
came in from.
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:It also told me how many leads we got from each section and we have it broken down from
weekly, monthly, quarterly, as well as yearly.
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:And so that data is very useful for me as I am creating plans on marketing.
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:Another thing I'm also looking at when I'm looking at the dashboard or I'm asking our
estimator, our sales team, what projects are people calling about?
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:And so, you I had asked this question a couple of months ago and they were like, oh, we're
getting a lot of jobs on security cameras, warehouses.
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:For all, what, three or four months, all my content I was writing about was warehouses and
security cameras because my art estimator had told me months prior,
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:But because I went that direction, I was able to get, it was working.
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:And so I use that from, I use Ubersuggest, I use the Answer, oh my gosh, what is that
called?
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:my gosh.
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:Oh, Answer the Public, and then I also do a search on Google as well.
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:But these are just things that I, you know, I'm doing my own market research by asking the
team, by asking tools.
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:relying on the phone to ring, I'm looking at data to see what's working and what's not and
what is people actually asking for.
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:So some of the key lessons that I've learned throughout the years of marketing, the most
important thing is to understand is building organic leads take consistency.
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is working.
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:And also I would like to say as well to not allow for other people to come in and be like,
oh, I know more than you.
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:No, I've been doing this for 12 years.
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:Yes, I can learn more, but to not allow other people to or other marketing companies to
come in and to know what we're doing is working and not to change.
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:Organic marketing is not going to happen overnight, but when you keep showing up with
reviews, photos, content, helpful information, you start building a foundation that keeps
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:Organic marketing takes time, but when you stay consistent, the results start to build.
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:If you believe that this episode brought you real clarity, be sure to share it with
another contractor who also needs it.
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:And if you want to keep this conversation going, be sure to join our community of
contractors inside Building Better Contractor Businesses Facebook group.
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:This is a community where we talk through the real problems
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